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		<title>By: Renaming Eclipse RCP &#8211; Vote now! :: Modular Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Renaming Eclipse RCP &#8211; Vote now! :: Modular Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been three months since my post requesting that we rename Eclipse RCP and we&#8217;ve received many ideas from the Eclipse community. Now it&#8217;s time to narrow down [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been three months since my post requesting that we rename Eclipse RCP and we&#8217;ve received many ideas from the Eclipse community. Now it&#8217;s time to narrow down [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Renaming Eclipse RCP &#8211; Update &#171; RCP Quickstart: Learn the Eclipse Rich Client Platform from the experts</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>Renaming Eclipse RCP &#8211; Update &#171; RCP Quickstart: Learn the Eclipse Rich Client Platform from the experts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eclipse RCP &#8211;&#160;Update  It&#8217;s been two months since my post requesting that we rename Eclipse RCP, and I thought it was time to provide a progress update. The response has been overwhelmingly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eclipse RCP &#8211;&nbsp;Update  It&#8217;s been two months since my post requesting that we rename Eclipse RCP, and I thought it was time to provide a progress update. The response has been overwhelmingly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Manjunatha,

Thanks for the comments. If you think of a name that would work well, feel free to comment on the Bugzilla entry linked to above, or just email it to me and I&#039;ll add it to the list.

--- Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Manjunatha,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. If you think of a name that would work well, feel free to comment on the Bugzilla entry linked to above, or just email it to me and I&#8217;ll add it to the list.</p>
<p>&#8212; Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Manjunatha</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjunatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are some of the good things makes new framework more popular:

1) Do not make your framework dependency on Eclipse IDE, provide a steps to develop using any text editor and deploy and execute without using your IDE. That gives us full control and understanding of your framework and it makes popular.  As like any other spring, hibernate, AJAX, SWING, JSP.

Now we feel many times whether we need your IDE to run our developed application also? like many mis understandings and it is hard to migrate existing application to new one because of setting binding old resources and old application files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are some of the good things makes new framework more popular:</p>
<p>1) Do not make your framework dependency on Eclipse IDE, provide a steps to develop using any text editor and deploy and execute without using your IDE. That gives us full control and understanding of your framework and it makes popular.  As like any other spring, hibernate, AJAX, SWING, JSP.</p>
<p>Now we feel many times whether we need your IDE to run our developed application also? like many mis understandings and it is hard to migrate existing application to new one because of setting binding old resources and old application files.</p>
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		<title>By: Manjunatha</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjunatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some simple commonly known word is always goes very well in the market, like sun, moon, windows, builder, bus,face. because you know in this software development world there are many foreign people are there and for them simple worlds make easy to remember and broadcast in their circle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some simple commonly known word is always goes very well in the market, like sun, moon, windows, builder, bus,face. because you know in this software development world there are many foreign people are there and for them simple worlds make easy to remember and broadcast in their circle.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guillaume,

Glad you agree. Hopefully we can make this happen.

As for the names, it looks like Helios is going to the be used for the entire release train in 2010. Selene is indeed poetic, and I&#039;ll add it to the list. The only negative to it is that it doesn&#039;t say anything about the product (modularity, framework, etc.), but that doesn&#039;t have be a requirement.

--- Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guillaume,</p>
<p>Glad you agree. Hopefully we can make this happen.</p>
<p>As for the names, it looks like Helios is going to the be used for the entire release train in 2010. Selene is indeed poetic, and I&#8217;ll add it to the list. The only negative to it is that it doesn&#8217;t say anything about the product (modularity, framework, etc.), but that doesn&#8217;t have be a requirement.</p>
<p>&#8212; Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really agree with your remark. Eclipse RCP sounds like a development product code, not like a mature product name.

Eclipse is a product, Equinox is a well identified product as well. I think that a good name could represent a product line that is consistent with the existing ones.

The first ideas I think about are Helios or Selene. To me, it is cohesive with the names of the products they are related to, and they sound a little poetic, don&#039;t they ?

NB: EMF or BIRT are horrible names also!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really agree with your remark. Eclipse RCP sounds like a development product code, not like a mature product name.</p>
<p>Eclipse is a product, Equinox is a well identified product as well. I think that a good name could represent a product line that is consistent with the existing ones.</p>
<p>The first ideas I think about are Helios or Selene. To me, it is cohesive with the names of the products they are related to, and they sound a little poetic, don&#8217;t they ?</p>
<p>NB: EMF or BIRT are horrible names also!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Skerrett</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Skerrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Nicknames vs acronym, I don&#039;t think one is better than another;  BIRT and EMF are pretty well known projects.

Projects are responsible for naming.  You will need to convince the RCP committers to change the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Nicknames vs acronym, I don&#8217;t think one is better than another;  BIRT and EMF are pretty well known projects.</p>
<p>Projects are responsible for naming.  You will need to convince the RCP committers to change the name.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Milinkovich</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Milinkovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t sure if I should comment on this blog or on the bug. Let&#039;s try doing both :-)

See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=277947#c10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure if I should comment on this blog or on the bug. Let&#8217;s try doing both :-)</p>
<p>See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=277947#c10" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=277947#c10</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.modumind.com/2009/05/26/lets-rename-eclipse-rcp/comment-page-1/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian,

Thanks for weighing in. I hadn&#039;t seen the naming document before but I&#039;m glad there is such a thing. In my opinion, though, the &quot;nickname&quot; identifiers (as described in the document) are much more successful than the long technical names that usually result in an acronym soup.

I&#039;d be interested in your thoughts on the process for renaming RCP. I understand that there has to be a consensus, but I&#039;m wondering what steps need to be taken to actually make something happen. Maybe this could be discussed in the Bugzilla entry.

--- Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>Thanks for weighing in. I hadn&#8217;t seen the naming document before but I&#8217;m glad there is such a thing. In my opinion, though, the &#8220;nickname&#8221; identifiers (as described in the document) are much more successful than the long technical names that usually result in an acronym soup.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in your thoughts on the process for renaming RCP. I understand that there has to be a consensus, but I&#8217;m wondering what steps need to be taken to actually make something happen. Maybe this could be discussed in the Bugzilla entry.</p>
<p>&#8212; Patrick</p>
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